I'm a little confused about which upgrade I should do. I currently own C&V, so for $89 I get the Superior 2.0 engine, plus whatever extra samples were in the Vintage add on?

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Or for $129 I could do the Superior 2.0 upgrade and get the new plugin plus the New York Legacy Series samples. But then my C&V samples wouldn't work in the new engine?

Or they would? Or is the $89 upgrade just the C&V samples made to work in the 2.0 engine?

So I would need to buy both upgrades to get C&V working in the 2.0 plugin? I guess I should just email toontrack but I thought somebody here might know. I love the sound on the Custom and Vintage SDX demos and always wanted to get this one!

Thing is I already have Superior 2.0, Vintage Rock EZX, Nashville EZX, Jazz EZX, Latin Percussion EZX + EzDrummer!!! Surely I would be entitled to some discount on these SDX's but alas no!!!

Most companies offer a loyalty discount with the more stuff you buy from them the larger the discount!! I wish Toontrack did this!!!Yes, but $179 list is really not that much especially if you compare it to the expansion packs for BFD2 which will run you $249 a pop. Toontrack need to make money too. They're not just in it to save us money. Yes, but $179 list is really not that much especially if you compare it to the expansion packs for BFD2 which will run you $249 a pop. Toontrack need to make money too.

They're not just in it to save us money. If you notice though, the trend for all these drum sample companies is going towards smaller expansion packs for less money. SSD broke theirs up to get the EX version under $100 and add on packs later.

BFD is offering a snare expansion, 1 kit expansions, etc. I think it is a good idea, especially in this economy. Since the SDX's all list for the same price, why not make the Avatar samples that currently come with Superior 2 into the 'NY Studios Vol. 1 SDX' and offer customers a choice of SDX with the S2 engine? That way, if you want to start with C&V or Metal Foundry instead of Avatar, you could do that and be spending the same amount of money. I think that would attract more new users, since someone who is initially attracted to one of the SDX's and not the Avatar set would be more likely to spend $300 than $450. They could also sell the engine alone as an even cheaper upgrade path for EZ Drummer users - since EZD users would already have at least two kits to get started with (the standard kit and the cocktail kit).

You get a load of great MIDI grooves from Chris Whitten, mixer presets from Peter Henderson plus the samples have been tweaked and recalibrated.The sounds are also in the S2 format so they load a lot faster. I guess the individual needs to weigh up whether the upgrade is worth it for them.personally I think it's well worth the asking priceHmmm, I hear you as I was also confused. I bought Superior 1. I bought C&V.

Then I upgraded to S2.0 which I love but which loads C&V already, though in a somewhat crudish fashion. I'm not interested in preset grooves and I can live with a slower load time - I'm only interested in sound quality. So for another $89 you say the (same) sounds have been tweaked and recalibrated. Chrisso, you're a straight shooter: Is the end result of C&V in S2.0 significantly better sound wise than before?

Hi, I've been involved in this discussion over on the Toontrack forum too. To be honest it's a question I can't answer honestly right now. I never used the original C&V extensively because I emigrated to Australia just as it was released and with one thing and another my studio's been more or less in mothballs since. I know the Toontrack boffins worked on the reissue for at least 6 months. I know that original recordings were reassessed and sifted through to see if we could improve the performance in the newer Superior 2.2 engine, and in light of virtual drum software developments over the last few years. Until a few people start using C&V MkII and post honest feedback, I don't know if owners of both original C&V + Add-On will deem the upgrade price to the MkII version good value or not.